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Old 04-29-2018, 03:06 PM
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Frame Repair Ideas

Found one of my front spring hangers loose. I've read that this is somewhat common and that the frame beneath is damaged. Well I ground and chisled the rivets off and found this:


Now my question is, how have you who have dealt with type of damage repaired it? Any real life experience or theory of repair information would be helpful. Thanks!
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:38 PM
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baby wranglers suffer from severe rusting in the rear where the bend is as it catches crapolla and rusts from inside out, i caught mine in time before the %^&(&*_ frame collapsed

i had a guy do the fab work for me ( had no welder or the skills at the time) he boxed it in on 3 sides with 1/4 plate steel, with continuous welds i had him make the pieces 1 ft longer past the rotted section

It cost me like 800.00 but it was worth it to me

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Old 04-29-2018, 07:11 PM
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There are some patch panel pieces for sale that might work, like for the older leak spring wrangler. This can be fixed but will need welder and skills, might be best to leave it to someone skilled.
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I'd fix it with this:
https://bakersfield.craigslist.org/p...554967540.html

My front drivers side rear hanger was torn/bent, too, pretty much exactly like that but not separated. I pushed mine back into place with a 20 ton bottle jack and chain, then beveled and welded the tear with my crappy 120v Harbor Freight welder. It didn't hold. My plan this time is to have it welded all the way around the perch by a buddy with a much better (240V) welder and gusset the side that does not have the rivet on it.
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Anyone have a definitive answer to how thick our frames are? Some say 1/8", others say 3/16".
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:56 AM
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Anyone have a definitive answer to how thick our frames are? Some say 1/8", others say 3/16".
Id say do a pass with the 120 Volt get it rolling flat tow it to the hobby shop they had a big stick welder and do a few passes with the big boy just to be sure
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:54 AM
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My first thought would be is there more of this or is this the only repair needed ?

I have a 79 Cherokee frame I'd give you if your whole frame is toast. it's in central OR but that might be the easiest fix .

If it's just this spot a bunch of plate steel welding rod will fix it. but to do it right you're going to have to plate it beyond the damaged area to give it the rigidity it once had.
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Okay, creature repair:101

When in doubt, double the thickness= probably 1/4in. As stated, lay the new material in longer and stronger than before and utilize true and experienced welding methods to finish it up.
But hey. I would bet you knew this from the start.,,,right?


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Old 05-15-2018, 08:38 PM
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Okay, creature repair:101

When in doubt, double the thickness= probably 1/4in. As stated, lay the new material in longer and stronger than before and utilize true and experienced welding methods to finish it up.
But hey. I would bet you knew this from the start.,,,right?


J20

Of course. I'm more looking for ideas on how to piece it back together since all the "box" section on these rigs is two pieces of C channel overlapped and welded together.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:59 PM
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If mine or customers I would angle cut the bad out. Easier to fix a square then round hole. Angle cutting will get you deeper weld since you can get to one side. I use a busted frame for the steel.If done right you mite not see it. I just did a rear frame repair of about 4' on my wifes truck.
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I'd cut the outer channel maybe an inch or so past the body mount front and back, being careful not to cut into the inner, and just below the body mount on the outside. Maybe even remove the mount and go higher.

Carefully fit a new piece from a junk frame.

Remove the paint and rust and properly prep the joint and weld in the new piece.

Fitting will be more difficult but if you want to get fancy make the cuts on the bottom at an angle so it's a flat top pyramid shape. Trapazoid? Maybe even on the outside of the frame also.

With proper prep and welding no fish plating necessary. It'll be as strong as it ever was.
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