I bought a Felpro Gasket Set for a 360 and it came with a couple bags of Valve Stem Seals. Question here is which set is better. One bag has some clear ones and are Nylon. The other bag has black ones and are Polycrylate. Can anyone provide some recommendation. Here some pictures:
Valve Stem Seals, Which ones?
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Either will work fine as long as they fit tightly around the valve stem/head boss. Personally, I use polyacrylate...no good reason...just always use them.79 Cherokee Chief WT "RDBLOK" warmed over 360, TH400/QT, 4.10 Truetrac F/Detroit Locker R, 4" Skyjacker Softride System, Rancho 9000 shocks with in cab adjust, Hydroboost brakes, 33" BFG Mud Terrains
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try the black ones,the nylon ones seem to walk up,off the guide.Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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I am beginning the teardown to replace my valve stem seals. So between the two types of seals, which ones were used?
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Back from the dead!!...lol
I just had a set of heads re-done and got the same two bags of seals in the gasket kit. I took them both to the machiene shop and asked them. He said the nylon ones are better. So I took his advice and used them.79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.
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Originally posted by JeepsAndGunsBack from the dead!!...lol
I just had a set of heads re-done and got the same two bags of seals in the gasket kit. I took them both to the machiene shop and asked them. He said the nylon ones are better. So I took his advice and used them.
S.J."Carpe Mañana".
'83 Wagoneer
360, .030-over, K8600 cam, Crane springs, ported heads, Edelbrock Performer, G.M. TBI, TFI, 3" exhaust,
T-18a/208, D44/AMC 20 w/ limited slip in both, 3.73s, 33s, BDS 4" springs, Rancho 9000 shocks, etc., etc.
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....and i've since decided i like the nylon umbrella seals better,lol!Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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Remove all doubt, use both!Jeep Grounds
RRV Homepage
Texas Full Size Jeep Association
1987 Grand Wagoneer
AMC 360/TF727/NP229
1999 Wrangler Sport
4.0L/AX-15/NV231
?Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction? by Ronald Reagan.
Formerly of DFW/Gun Barrel City, TX - eventually to return...
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Originally posted by Serious JohnsonHa! I did the same thing, and they used the black ones. So I guess the official verdict so far is "who the heck knows"?
S.J.
I wonder just how much of a diffrence there really is. I think either one will work fine. But I am keeping the extra ones, so incase these start leaking, I have some new ones...lol79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.
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They spec the rubber one for older cars and the nylon for newer. I asked my machine shop guy which ones I should use and he said "Aw hell, it don't matter. I always just use the black ones".
That guy turned out to be an idiot. After the 2nd time he botched the heads I took them to a competent shop and had them machined for positive seals while they were machining for rocker studs.
No offense to anyone who recommended the rubber ones...
Seriously, though, I think the only reason they put both in the package is because the older motors originally came with rubber and then at some point they improved the design and switched to nylon.
I found a bunch of rubber chunks down in the oil pan from deteriorated rubber seals, so I imagine they felt nylon was an improvement. The nylon ones fit tight on the stem but may eventually will crack and get loose on the stem; the rubber ones go on real easy, but will get hard and then eventually start breaking up as they continue to deteriorate.90 G Wag.- New Motor/Trans/TC...Soon to have TBI!: CS-144 Alt; Parallel Flow A/C Condenser; Read this BEFORE you install an HEI ignition module!
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In all seriousness, Walt is right. If you're in a hurry, use the rubber ones (not really rubber, but close enough). If you've got time to spare, use the nylon ones.
Quick note to make them a LOT easier to install, heat them in boiling water, they'll slip on with no fuss.Jeep Grounds
RRV Homepage
Texas Full Size Jeep Association
1987 Grand Wagoneer
AMC 360/TF727/NP229
1999 Wrangler Sport
4.0L/AX-15/NV231
?Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction? by Ronald Reagan.
Formerly of DFW/Gun Barrel City, TX - eventually to return...
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When I pulled my engine apart it had the nylon seals and they were cracked up so I went with the black ones. It didn't smoke with the cracked seals and doesn't smoke with the new black ones. Either way you'll have a back up set and if you did them yourself you'll know how to install them if needed.1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
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