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  • Wagoneer Taylor
    258 I6
    • Dec 17, 2018
    • 434

    401, 0.40 Over Pistons

    I am looking for a set of 401 Pistons, at .040 over bore.

    I have a set of 401 Pistons at 0.30 over bore for sale or trade.

    [email protected] or PM me, thanks.
    Some call me Taylor...

    1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
    Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
    PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
    "Soon" is a relative term.
    Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

  • #2
    Did you check for core shift?
    Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental.

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    • Wagoneer Taylor
      258 I6
      • Dec 17, 2018
      • 434

      #3
      How would I do this?
      Some call me Taylor...

      1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
      Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
      PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
      "Soon" is a relative term.
      Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

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      • #4
        Machine shop can do a sonic test to see. Anything over 0.020 bore it pretty much requires it or overly hot spots cause the block to warp and crush the cylinders as someone else found out the hard way.
        Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental.

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        • Wagoneer Taylor
          258 I6
          • Dec 17, 2018
          • 434

          #5
          Oh then yes I will be having them check this.
          Some call me Taylor...

          1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
          Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
          PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
          "Soon" is a relative term.
          Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

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          • J20 project
            304 AMC
            • Dec 27, 2000
            • 2487

            #6
            EEk, everything I ever heard was that about .30 over was the most you want to do in terms of being able to cool the engine...But...in all fairness, I have never done it.


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            • Wagoneer Taylor
              258 I6
              • Dec 17, 2018
              • 434

              #7
              I keep getting stories either way, lots of people say you shouldn't go over 0.020 (I don't disagree with this, there appears to be a lot of info to support it). But on the other hand I get a lot of people saying they have gone to 0.030 all the way to 0.060 without problems.

              I'm going to take every precaution I can with this block, it was already 0.030 over and had no signs of over heating or running hot that I could find. It still had all the little disks that a rebuild shop puts on it and the engine was rebuilt in 2001.

              I realize that all of you guys are just trying to look out for me and the engine but I'm gonna risk.
              Some call me Taylor...

              1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
              Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
              PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
              "Soon" is a relative term.
              Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

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              • rang-a-stang
                Administrator
                • Oct 31, 2016
                • 5505

                #8
                I'm at 030 over without issues. During my build I searched theamcforum about boring and there were lots of posts from folks with 401 blocks that were 040 and 060 without issue. There was also lots of advice to "not go more 030" but I only saw one person at 060 say they had heating issues. There were other seasoned AMC V8 engine builders saying it's not a big deal to go 040 or 060. It would probably be best to have the walls sonic checked to check their thickness but if 030 is fine, I can't imagine an extra 010 would make so much of a difference that you would have problems.
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                • babywag
                  out of order
                  • Jun 08, 2005
                  • 10286

                  #9
                  You might try a PM to SC/397 maybe he has something you could use?
                  He is an AMC engine guru.
                  Tony
                  88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                  • Wagoneer Taylor
                    258 I6
                    • Dec 17, 2018
                    • 434

                    #10
                    I talked to him as well, he said I should be fine. At 0.060 over you will want to sonic check for sure. He also mentioned one of the most important things is to clean out all the water jackets of crud.

                    I plan on sonic checking anyway.
                    Some call me Taylor...

                    1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
                    Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
                    PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
                    "Soon" is a relative term.
                    Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

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                    • SC/397
                      Administrator
                      • Feb 01, 2010
                      • 1024

                      #11

                      Here are some 0.045" over.
                      Our Pro Tru?. Bore:4.210" Bore. Piston Material:Forged 4032 Alloy. Chromium Alloy Steel Piston Pin & Spirolox Included. Quantity:Sold As Kit (for 8 cylinder). Top Ring Type:Moly-Faced Ductile Iron. Wait for an RGA number to be issued.
                      The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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                      • Wagoneer Taylor
                        258 I6
                        • Dec 17, 2018
                        • 434

                        #12

                        Thanks!!!
                        Have you used the Eutectic pistons before? Ive never heard of them.
                        Some call me Taylor...

                        1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
                        Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
                        PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
                        "Soon" is a relative term.
                        Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

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                        • SC/397
                          Administrator
                          • Feb 01, 2010
                          • 1024

                          #13
                          Those listed in the add are forged not Hypereutectic.
                          But to answer your question NO, I do not use Hypereutectic pistons. They will not take any detonation whatsoever. In my humble opinion, normal old cast pistons are better than hypers.
                          The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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                          • Wagoneer Taylor
                            258 I6
                            • Dec 17, 2018
                            • 434

                            #14
                            I just read the post a bit more carefully

                            Thanks again
                            Some call me Taylor...

                            1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
                            Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
                            PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
                            "Soon" is a relative term.
                            Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.

                            Comment

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